Some missing game versions
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Re: Some missing game versions
Interesting about Trugg, I see the same error. I had a look at my copies and I have a version (not zipped, from a compilation CD) that has a couple of extra files. It has a "sharesup.bbs" ad for Digital Workshop's BBS as well as "trugg_a.lst" which only contains two bytes.
However, looking at my installed version of the game it looks like it creates the .LST file at run time, perhaps to remember what level you were up to, so I guess that won't be in a distributed zip.
I didn't think it was possible to remove files from the zip without updating the signature so I wonder what the story is.
However, looking at my installed version of the game it looks like it creates the .LST file at run time, perhaps to remember what level you were up to, so I guess that won't be in a distributed zip.
I didn't think it was possible to remove files from the zip without updating the signature so I wonder what the story is.
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Re: Some missing game versions
It is true, the extra file keeps record of your completed stages.Malvineous wrote: March 7th, 2021, 12:18 am Interesting about Trugg, I see the same error. I had a look at my copies and I have a version (not zipped, from a compilation CD) that has a couple of extra files. It has a "sharesup.bbs" ad for Digital Workshop's BBS as well as "trugg_a.lst" which only contains two bytes.
However, looking at my installed version of the game it looks like it creates the .LST file at run time, perhaps to remember what level you were up to, so I guess that won't be in a distributed zip.
Here I just deleted TRUGG.EXE from TRUGG10.ZIP using Info-Zip for DOS, it gives me the same output when I PKUNZIP it -- every extracted file passes the test but it tells me that Authenticity Verification Failed in the end, with exact same error code (W17). BTW, I poked around Trugg shareware a bit more and ran it with a command line parameter that shows memory info upon exit. It also displays the version number which is BETA v1.0b:Malvineous wrote: March 7th, 2021, 12:18 am I didn't think it was possible to remove files from the zip without updating the signature so I wonder what the story is.

Curiously the newer version from Digital Workshop FTP seems nowhere to be found yet, but hopefully someone has a copy.
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Re: Some missing game versions
Very interesting! So someone must have removed the file from the zip with a program that did not update the signature. I wonder whether removing it with PKZIP would fix the signature for the whole file?
My shareware versions of the game also display that same version number.
I did some hunting, trying a .zip extension instead of .exe and came across this list which links to the publisher's FTP site, which now requires a password. There's an e-mail address on the bottom of the page so that could be worth a shot, as the person who made that web page likely would've downloaded it at some point.
Failing that, it looks like the publisher is still in business and still references Trugg on their history page as a "puzzle-development business". There's a support e-mail address and it sounds like it might go to the same people who were there at the start, so they might be able to supply that version of the game. Maybe you could also ask if they have any plans to sell it via GoG so it can be played on modern PCs as it sounds like they would like to keep selling their products if there were a market for them.
My shareware versions of the game also display that same version number.
I did some hunting, trying a .zip extension instead of .exe and came across this list which links to the publisher's FTP site, which now requires a password. There's an e-mail address on the bottom of the page so that could be worth a shot, as the person who made that web page likely would've downloaded it at some point.
Failing that, it looks like the publisher is still in business and still references Trugg on their history page as a "puzzle-development business". There's a support e-mail address and it sounds like it might go to the same people who were there at the start, so they might be able to supply that version of the game. Maybe you could also ask if they have any plans to sell it via GoG so it can be played on modern PCs as it sounds like they would like to keep selling their products if there were a market for them.
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Re: Some missing game versions
That's exactly where I learned about the updated shareware version, except I found this list the other way round, by Googling Boulder Dash clones (or maybe specifically the title Trugg).Malvineous wrote: March 8th, 2021, 3:36 am I did some hunting, trying a .zip extension instead of .exe and came across this list
It is my understanding that the Authenticity Verification routine is something that would not be easy to tamper with. Even if you can modify a ZIP file safeguarded like that, it'd likely require the retail version of PKZIP that was registered to the same entity or person who created the original archive.
Yes, that sounds like a good idea to contact the developers. DOSGuy already has a vast experience in this field so maybe he'll drop them a note?Malvineous wrote: March 8th, 2021, 3:36 am Failing that, it looks like the publisher is still in business and still references Trugg on their history page as a "puzzle-development business". There's a support e-mail address and it sounds like it might go to the same people who were there at the start, so they might be able to supply that version of the game. Maybe you could also ask if they have any plans to sell it via GoG so it can be played on modern PCs as it sounds like they would like to keep selling their products if there were a market for them.
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Re: Some missing game versions
Over the past several years, 3D Realms kindly released several beta versions of their shareware-turned-freeware games:
Major Stryker beta
Halloween Harry beta
Bio Menace beta
I asked Hendricks266 if third parties could distribute these, he said yes.
Major Stryker beta
Halloween Harry beta
Bio Menace beta
I asked Hendricks266 if third parties could distribute these, he said yes.
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Re: Some missing game versions
I've found the shareware version 2.0 of Moraff's Entrap: ENTRAP20.ZIP
ENTRAP.EXE is dated 18 Feb 1991.
ENTRAP.EXE is dated 18 Feb 1991.
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Re: Some missing game versions
Sweet! Thanks!MrFlibble wrote: November 30th, 2022, 1:31 pm I've found the shareware version 2.0 of Moraff's Entrap: ENTRAP20.ZIP
ENTRAP.EXE is dated 18 Feb 1991.
Today entirely the maniac there is no excuse with the article.
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Re: Some missing game versions
Here's the original download of the full English version of Teenagent from Metropolis Software website, preserved by the Wayback Machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010803064 ... nload.html
I guess you could re-classify the game as freeware as well.
https://web.archive.org/web/20010803064 ... nload.html
I guess you could re-classify the game as freeware as well.
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Re: Some missing game versions
There is also a freeware Czech version of Teenagent, which was available from here:
http://plnehry.cz:80/adventure/agentmlicnak.html
Found it here:
https://discmaster.textfiles.com/browse ... ch/mlicnak
However, it can also be downloaded via the Wayback Machine: teenagnt.exe
http://plnehry.cz:80/adventure/agentmlicnak.html
Found it here:
https://discmaster.textfiles.com/browse ... ch/mlicnak
However, it can also be downloaded via the Wayback Machine: teenagnt.exe
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Re: Some missing game versions
Using DiscMaster, I found the shareware version 2.15D of Space Chase (!!storm1.zip, 425,983 bytes):
https://discmaster.textfiles.com/browse ... storm1.zip
The file has a built-in AV routine from the BBS where it had been downloaded from, but it's the only instance of this version available in DiscMaster's archives.
https://discmaster.textfiles.com/browse ... storm1.zip
The file has a built-in AV routine from the BBS where it had been downloaded from, but it's the only instance of this version available in DiscMaster's archives.
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Re: Some missing game versions
Using DiscMaster, I found several installer versions of Epic MegaGames' shareware titles. Generally, it appears that Epic never distributed installers digitally through BBS or their website, and only sent out installers to shareware vendors to put on floppies. Some of these later found their ways on shovelware CDs or magazine coverdisks.
BTW, I was able to determine that several Epic installers found by Litude were originally found on CD releases of registered games by Epic as a bonus. This includes installers for Radix: Beyond the Void (not included on the site) and the hybrid shareware release of Jazz jackrabbit that includes both the regular shareware episode and the 1994 version of Holiday Hare (marked as shareware 1.3 on the site).
I'm giving links to zipped files when possible for the ease of retrieving files with the original date stamps. But, of course, these files were most likely zipped by third parties. This is similar to installers found here in ZIPs, which I will not list below.
Electro Body
Jazz Jackrabbit: Christmas Edition (1994)
Jazz Jackrabbit Holiday Hare 1995
Radix: Beyond the Void
Tyrian
BTW, I was able to determine that several Epic installers found by Litude were originally found on CD releases of registered games by Epic as a bonus. This includes installers for Radix: Beyond the Void (not included on the site) and the hybrid shareware release of Jazz jackrabbit that includes both the regular shareware episode and the 1994 version of Holiday Hare (marked as shareware 1.3 on the site).
I'm giving links to zipped files when possible for the ease of retrieving files with the original date stamps. But, of course, these files were most likely zipped by third parties. This is similar to installers found here in ZIPs, which I will not list below.
Electro Body
- shareware v1.0 (installer): loose files [ELECTROS.Z01 443,265 bytes]
- shareware v1.0 (floppy installer): heart.zip [HEARTS.Z01 546,083 bytes]
- shareware v1.0 (installer): jazz.exe [1,452,288 bytes]
- shareware v1.0 (floppy installer): 2859.zip [JAZZ.Z01 1,420,338 bytes]
Jazz Jackrabbit: Christmas Edition (1994)
- shareware v1.1 (installer): fty1011.zip [HOLHAR.EXE 1,441,024 bytes]
Jazz Jackrabbit Holiday Hare 1995
- shareware v1.3 (CD installer): JJXMAS.EXE [1,472,441 bytes]
Radix: Beyond the Void
- shareware v1.0 (floppy installer): radix.zip [RADSW1.Z03 1,008,668 bytes]
Tyrian
- shareware v1.0 (floppy installer): tyrian.exe [TYRSW.Z01 315,678 bytes]
- shareware v1.1 (floppy installer for vendors): tyrian.zip [TYRVEND.Z02 335,678 bytes]
- shareware v2.0 (floppy installer): tyrian.zip [TYRSW.Z02 469,557]